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Jan
15

Debate Challenge

In his latest post, Paul Dohse Sr. has challenged “anyone out there” to debate him on the issue of Calvin’s doctrine of total depravity. I have invited him to debate many times and he knows it. My suggestion has been that we could debate via Skype or some other such medium, and he could video tape the exchange to post on his blog. If there is anyone out there who is still able to contact him, please inform him I have accepted his challenge. He has forbidden me to post on his blog or contact him by e-mail.
The reason he does not wish to debate me is that I suggested that we follow certain rules for such a debate. They are as follows:

1. Each person must define the terms he is using in his arguments. There is no sense wasting time talking past each other in a debate because we are using the same terms differently.

2. Each person must support his contentions about what a third party has written or said by actual quotations from that person in the context in which it was written or said.

3. Each person must be able to state his opponent’s position to his satisfaction before attempting to answer it.

4. Only one issue may be discussed at a time unless other issues can be shown to be relevant to the main issue being discussed.

Those suggestions seemed reasonable to me, though I am aware they are completely contrary to Paul’s M.O. He thrives on misrepresentation [That is a euphemism for lying]. It is time for him to “put his money where his mouth is.”

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4 Responses to “Debate Challenge”


  1. January 9, 2015 at 2:05 am

    Those who are on thin ice often do badly in debates when facing off with someone who stands on the Word of God. Several years ago I witnessed a debate style discussion between a well known author and defender of paedo-baptism and a virtual unknown pastor and defender of credo-baptism. The paedo-baptist was an experienced debater, the other man not at all. Everyone there who saw and heard (the room was packed) was of the solid opinion that the credo-baptist carried the argument. It was somewhat embarrassing for the “famous” guy, who was a featured speaker at the conference that had this debate as a small group between plenum speeches. God’s Word defends itself!

  2. 3 Peace and Grace
    January 9, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    Pauld Dohse has challenged Dr. James White and Dr. David Allen to a debate about John Calvin.

    http://www.paulspassingthoughts.com/2013/12/05/dr-james-white-and-dr-david-allen-keep-the-christian-herd-calm-while-vying-for-the-mutton

    Paul Dohse: “There isn’t a Calvinist on the face of the earth that is going to debate anyone who can read the Calvin Institutes.” ( This begs the question of what is the definition of being able to read The Institues.)

    Dohse’s main “mentor” is John Immel, who holds a minor in church history/systematic theology from Oral Roberts University. He is the reason Dohse filters everything through metaphysics and gnosticism. Immel’s comment in that post: “What the hell does knowing Greek and Hebrew have anything to do with anything. I’d have to look it up, but I’m pretty sure that Calvin didn’t know Greek, and it’s highly doubtful he knew Hebrew.”

    Immel should have looked it up before making his comment. Reformed interpreters of the sixteenth century were masters of the Greek language, and men like Beza even surpassed Calvin in it.

    Paul Dohse was a pastor for 5 years in Texas, and still considers himself a pastor today in Ohio?

    • January 9, 2015 at 4:32 pm

      Does he seriously think men of that theological stature would be willing to debate a theological gnat like him? Though Calvin clearly did not teach what Paul claims, in reality what he taught doesn’t matter. Calvin is not our authority.

      It does not cease to amaze me that Paul sees pastors as an unnecessary evil yet he continues to consider himself a pastor. We shouldn’t read anyone’s commentary but only study the Scriptures independently, yet we need his brilliant wisdom to guide us. Consistency, thou art a rare jewel.


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